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Are ...I'm not sure who you're attacking, anonymous. Are you saying we should be going by last year's stats to back up Nash's claim for an MVP, or that his teammates are having career years this year, so we should disregard their stats?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146512091963817922006-05-01T12:34:00.001-07:002006-05-01T12:34:00.001-07:00Comparing Nash's teammate's stats with the teammat...Comparing Nash's teammate's stats with the teammates of Lebron is ridiculous. Compare last year's stats, not this year, when all of Steve Nash's teammates had career years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146512091960262622006-05-01T12:34:00.000-07:002006-05-01T12:34:00.000-07:00Comparing Nash's teammate's stats with the teammat...Comparing Nash's teammate's stats with the teammates of Lebron is ridiculous. Compare last year's stats, not this year, when all of Steve Nash's teammates had career years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146243327421077452006-04-28T09:55:00.000-07:002006-04-28T09:55:00.000-07:00Nash shouldn't have i mvp trophy, let alone 2. Yes...Nash shouldn't have i mvp trophy, let alone 2. Yes, he's pretty good (if you ignore defense). Yes, he improves those around him (if you buy the extremely dubious argument that he plays with scrubs). BUT even if you do lose your mind briefly and buy those big ifs, he's still only 'good' - not great, not mvp level, not 2 years running. He must give good head or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146241687908949542006-04-28T09:28:00.000-07:002006-04-28T09:28:00.000-07:00Thomas hasn't lived up to the expectations given t...Thomas hasn't lived up to the expectations given to him, and his contract is out of whack, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. <BR/><BR/>People seem to think that unless you're an all-star, you're a failure, and that's just not fair. Thomas is a legimitate starting player in the NBA - that makes him better than 70% of the guys in the league, which means he's better than just an average player.<BR/><BR/>I guess it all depends upon your definition of "good."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146206623378451512006-04-27T23:43:00.000-07:002006-04-27T23:43:00.000-07:00LeBron James was the logical choice. "Tim Thomas w...LeBron James was the logical choice. <BR/><BR/>"Tim Thomas wasn't some scrub, he's been a good player in this league." <BR/><BR/>Inaccurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146178397149437372006-04-27T15:53:00.000-07:002006-04-27T15:53:00.000-07:00Nuss, I didn't mean to imply that everyone who joi...Nuss, I didn't mean to imply that everyone who joined PHX is a scrub, I meant it more in the sense that regardless of who joins (good or bad, as PHX seems to be a rotating door), they are elevated by his play. That says a lot. <BR/><BR/>Kobe, for example, is a great player, but when you watch the Lakers, he doesn't elevate anyone, he's just good enough to outweigh the Kwame Brown's of the world.<BR/><BR/>I don't think giving him 2 MVP's is a question of 'elevating' him to MJ/Magic/Bird status, it speaks more to the fact that there is a lack of those sort of players in the game today- players that change their team (not just in a +/- 20 points a night sense).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146177075416600912006-04-27T15:31:00.000-07:002006-04-27T15:31:00.000-07:00I'll go along with you on Diaw, but Tim Thomas was...I'll go along with you on Diaw, but Tim Thomas wasn't some scrub, he's been a good player in this league who signed a contract befitting a superstar. <BR/><BR/>Plus, Raja Bell scored just as often in Utah as he is this year - just more minutes. Besides, if Barbosa is playing better this year, then shouldn't we critize Nash for not getting this out of him last year, when he was his teammate? Plus, doesn't Barbosa only play when Nash is on the bench? <BR/><BR/>Finally, if Nash was able to raise his teammates so much, it would follow that the Mavericks' stats would have plummeted after he left, which they didn't.<BR/><BR/>I'm all for giving Nash credit. He's definitely one of the top PGs in the game, and possibly the best. But to start giving him Magic/Larry/MJ credit as some sort of hero is silly - especially since he's never led a playoff team to the finals, which is the true mark of a champion. Maybe I'm wrong and if Nash leads the Suns to the finals I'll shut up, but I'm guessing it ain't going to happen this year, or anytime soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146175022657723102006-04-27T14:57:00.000-07:002006-04-27T14:57:00.000-07:00bamz101, cover your mouth when you fart.bamz101, cover your mouth when you fart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146173629454610032006-04-27T14:33:00.000-07:002006-04-27T14:33:00.000-07:00Call me a homer, but I think it was well deserved....Call me a homer, but I think it was well deserved. Of those players and how you ranked them, if the Phoenix players (outside of Marion) were not with Nash, they wouldn't be comparable to their Cleveland counterparts. If we look at how great we've perceived Diaw, Bell, Barbosa, both Thomases (esp Tim) have looked, I'd say a lot of that is due to Nash.<BR/><BR/>Hell take a look at Tim Thomas. A disappointment, then he joins Nash mid-season, and suddenly he looks like the player people thought he should be.<BR/><BR/>In the end, I think he gets the MVP because any scrub that joins the Suns tends to look like gold suddenly. I don't think its a coincidence and I don't think its something you could say about the Lakers, Cavaliers, or Mavericks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146173164499138162006-04-27T14:26:00.000-07:002006-04-27T14:26:00.000-07:00Maybe nash hooked all the voters up with some BC b...Maybe nash hooked all the voters up with some BC bud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146170283242933632006-04-27T13:38:00.000-07:002006-04-27T13:38:00.000-07:00It's not just race, like just any old white guy, b...It's not just race, like just any old white guy, because if it was why not Nowitzki?? I think it's deeper than that more like American white guy, I realize Steve Nash is Canadian but hell, he's the closest thing they've got right now. Nowitzki actually deserves the thing, if they gave it to him you wouldn't hear a peep from me. I don't understand why they'd do this though, maybe it is the theory of "who can they relate to the most".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146167603844326192006-04-27T12:53:00.000-07:002006-04-27T12:53:00.000-07:00I'm slowly coming around to the race thing... howe...I'm slowly coming around to the race thing... however, it's not like they gave the MVP to MMike Dunleavy or Austin Croshere...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146165073293554322006-04-27T12:11:00.000-07:002006-04-27T12:11:00.000-07:00Q - you're right, I'd take Shaq, Duncan, or Yao in...Q - you're right, I'd take Shaq, Duncan, or Yao in that situation, too, but that's only because of their height advantage, which disappears in the NBA. In my flawed analogy, I was trying to point out that in a ceteris paribus situation, four players on either team of equal value, wouldn't you take LeBron before you took Nash? Nash plays very poor defense and is nowhere near the scorer or rebounder LeBron is. His only advantage is as a passer, which is outweighed by all of the other factors.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that Nash won entirely because of his race, but you have to admit that it played at least a part in the decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146164899876462122006-04-27T12:08:00.000-07:002006-04-27T12:08:00.000-07:00Oh, Jason Kidd is a better point than Nash is also...Oh, Jason Kidd is a better point than Nash is also, and he was taught by GP. GP's favorite point of all time was Stockton so that should tell you something. Nash doesn't deserve the MVP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146161188427605442006-04-27T11:06:00.000-07:002006-04-27T11:06:00.000-07:00MVP’s - Maurice Podoloff Trophy2004-05 - Steve Nas...MVP’s - Maurice Podoloff Trophy<BR/>2004-05 - Steve Nash, Phoenix<BR/>2003-04 - Kevin Garnett, Minnesota<BR/>2002-03 - Tim Duncan, San Antonio<BR/>2001-02 - Tim Duncan, San Antonio<BR/>2000-01 - Allen Iverson, Philadelphia<BR/>1999-00 - Shaquille O’Neal, Los Angeles Lakers<BR/>1998-99 - Karl Malone, Utah<BR/>1997-98 - Michael Jordan, Chicago<BR/>1996-97 - Karl Malone, Utah<BR/>1995-96 - Michael Jordan, Chicago<BR/>1994-95 - David Robinson, San Antonio<BR/>1993-94 - Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston<BR/>1992-93 - Charles Barkley, Phoenix<BR/>1991-92 - Michael Jordan, Chicago<BR/>1990-91 - Michael Jordan, Chicago<BR/>1989-90 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers<BR/>1988-89 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers<BR/>1987-88 - Michael Jordan, Chicago<BR/>1986-87 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers<BR/><BR/>The only reason Nash won, even last year, is so there'd be a white guy on this list. lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146160938935469192006-04-27T11:02:00.000-07:002006-04-27T11:02:00.000-07:00Q- LeBron is a better point guard than Nash. And...Q- LeBron is a better point guard than Nash. And he plays small forward/shooting guard. Magic was also a better point guard than eithr Nash or Stocton. Gary payton in is heyday was a better point than Nash. The numbers prove me right on that last point also G has been to the finals where has nash been?? Canada. Oooooooh, ay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146160516689427762006-04-27T10:55:00.000-07:002006-04-27T10:55:00.000-07:00Nuss,It's cool, you can bust my chops anytime...Ag...Nuss,<BR/><BR/>It's cool, you can bust my chops anytime...<BR/><BR/>Again, it all depends on what your definition of MVP is. Sam Cassell is a good player, but I would say he would be 9th or 10th in the "helping you team" category, behind, Nowitski, Gasol, Iverson, and Billups.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately for you (and maybe ESPN) your average park league is not the NBA. Putting LeBron with a bunch of stiffs and putting Nash with a bunch of stiffs is nowhere near a correct comparison, because those two would inevitably guard each other (that would not happen in real life)<BR/><BR/>Let me ask you this... in the "Rucker Park" definition, I wouldn't take either... not unless shaq was sitting on a park bench somewhere. Does that make him MVP?<BR/><BR/>I have also heard the "Who would you build your team around?" defnintion of MVP as well. I just think it just depends on what your definition of the term "MVP" is.<BR/><BR/>I don't think people should be focusing on anyone's race. I also don't think anyone should be talking about Nash as a "poor mans-Stockton" I think that people should instead be talking about him as the greatest true point guard SINCE Stockton. I personally think he is better than Stockton in some respects. I for one love his game (as well as LeBron's) but I think there can be a solid case made for both.<BR/><BR/>-QAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-1146158687041839932006-04-27T10:24:00.000-07:002006-04-27T10:24:00.000-07:00I'm sorry if I'm stepping on toes with this Nash t...I'm sorry if I'm stepping on toes with this Nash thing; I can see why some people like him, and anyone who likes the NBA enjoys what the Suns are doing - for nothing more than the fact they have single-handedly brought back fast break basketball.<BR/><BR/>It drives me crazy, though, that people really think Nash is more valuable than LeBron, Shaq, Duncan, Wade, or Kobe when he so clearly isn't. Look at how the Lakers fell apart when Shaq left - they were decimated. The same thing would happen if Duncan left SA or if LBJ left Cleveland - and it didn't happen when Nash left Dallas. 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