tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post285823272251087113..comments2023-11-05T01:50:45.024-08:00Comments on Supersonicsoul - The Sonics Blog!: Durant, Green All-RookiesPaulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07413382016761430333noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-86654823807523727152008-05-15T20:13:00.000-07:002008-05-15T20:13:00.000-07:00The trade proposal involving Chris Wilcox wasn't a...The trade proposal involving Chris Wilcox wasn't about acquiring talent -- as I think very, very little of Maurice Ager -- but rather cutting costs for next season.<BR/><BR/>I'd also be down with offering Wilcox to the Indiana Pacers for Jeff Foster, though, since in the interim he'd help with rebouding and man-to-man interior defense. Foster could potentially be a great mentor for someone such as Robin Lopez, too.<BR/><BR/>Yet, regardless of whether or not the Seattle SuperSonics stay in the Emerald City beyond the 2009-2010 season, this upcoming campaign will be another tank job—there's no goddamn way around it.<BR/><BR/>The 2009 NBA Draft could have an interesting set of prospects. It might include a traditional pivotman (i.e., B.J. Mullens), a prtotypical power forward (i.e., Blake Griffin), and a Spanish hybrid of Steve Nash and "Pistol" Pete Maravich (i.e., Ricky Rubio).<BR/><BR/>Although it's nothing more than a pie in the sky fantasy, I salivate at the thought of pairing Derrick Rose and Rubio together in the backcourt. Rose and Rubio are both point guards, but they're stylistically different as playmakers. Rose is a drive-'n'-dish distributor, while Rubio is more of a freewheeling floor general.<BR/><BR/>In any case, the short-term goal for Sam Presti should be to futher dismantle the Sonics -- with Wilcox, Damien Wilkins, Earl Watson, and Luke Ridnour each having one foot out of the door -- no matter how unappealing that may seem to the average fan.<BR/><BR/>Despite my disdain toward Presti -- since his remarks about "not skipping steps" and "culture isn't paint on the walls" were banal platitudes, while trading Ray Allen and Glen "Big Baby" Davis for essentially Jeff Green was an altogether idiotic move -- he's at least moving stuff in the right direction—even though it's at a snail's pace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-52180605511570811542008-05-15T14:32:00.000-07:002008-05-15T14:32:00.000-07:00Flexibility feels good to a GM the real evaluation...Flexibility feels good to a GM the real evaluation begins after he commits his chips further.<BR/><BR/>Bennett / Presti have valued the future completely over the present so far but when do they turn the corner?<BR/><BR/>Brand would be nice - if they committed hard to winning in next 3 years - but it would surprise me for the team to commit that much salary & years to him and to that shorter team improvement timeline or for him to commit to them.<BR/><BR/>I assume Presti won't go for a big free agent this summer and maybe not even next summer. And probably not over 26.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-7226510505367845382008-05-15T12:23:00.000-07:002008-05-15T12:23:00.000-07:00It's also important to consider who will be availa...It's also important to consider who will be available in next summer's free agent crop. Elton Brand's deal will be up at that point, and he would make a very nice fit alongside Durant and Rose. The Sonics have the enviable position of having multiple draft picks also, plus they're going to suck next year, so their own pick will be solid. It's conceivable that by combining their two picks next year they would be able to grab a top two pick in three consecutive seasons (assuming, of course, that they get #1 or #2 this year). Because of that, I think the word that should be plastered in 200-point letters all over the front office is FLEXIBILITY. Luckily, it seems like Sam Presti agrees with that idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-3199510291114313842008-05-15T11:07:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:07:00.000-07:00The underlying themes of your next stage roster s...The underlying themes of your next stage roster seem to be driving PGs, 3 pt shooting wings, tough /smart bigs. Ok by me.<BR/><BR/>Quality is still an issue. <BR/><BR/>I can't see how Presti gets anywhere soon unless he hits on a good vet or two via trade or free agency.<BR/><BR/>The Wilcox trade (sometime between now and next summer sign n trade) will be a key event and he should get more than a young shooter. I'd try above all else to get a proven 7 foot defender. <BR/><BR/>Weaver seems like a good target though I wonder if he might be more Brandon Roy type SG than PG. But I'd go for having a combo guard on the roster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-17552921913340115332008-05-14T22:37:00.000-07:002008-05-14T22:37:00.000-07:00First off, here's my most recent 2008 NBA Mock Dra...First off, here's my most recent 2008 NBA Mock Draft.<BR/><BR/><A>http://realgm.com/src_checkdraft.php?draftid=195069</A><BR/><BR/>#2: Derrick Rose<BR/>#24: Robin Lopez<BR/>#32: Courtney Lee<BR/>#43: Kyle Weaver<BR/>#50: Shan Foster<BR/>#56: David Padgett<BR/><BR/>Next, here's four trade proposals that'd slash payroll.<BR/><BR/><B>TRADE PROPOSAL #1</B><BR/><BR/>FROM HOUSTON & TO SEATTLE<BR/>SG Bobby Jackson<BR/><BR/>FROM SEATTLE & TO HOUSTON<BR/>PG Earl Watson<BR/><BR/><A>http://tinyurl.com/2l3n6g</A><BR/><BR/><B>TRADE PROPOSAL #2</B><BR/><BR/>FROM NEW JERSEY & TO SEATTLE<BR/>SF Christian Drejer<BR/><BR/>FROM SEATTLE & TO NEW JERSEY<BR/>SG Damien Wilkins<BR/><BR/><A>http://tinyurl.com/5xq5em</A><BR/><BR/><B>TRADE PROPOSAL #3</B><BR/><BR/>FROM NEW JERSEY & TO SEATTLE<BR/>PF Keith Van Horn<BR/>SG Maurice Ager<BR/><BR/>FROM SEATTLE & TO NEW JERSEY<BR/>PF Chris Wilcox<BR/><BR/><A>http://tinyurl.com/5yecy7</A><BR/><BR/><B>TRADE PROPOSAL #4</B><BR/><BR/>FROM CLEVELAND<BR/>PG Eric Snow<BR/><BR/>FROM MINNESOTA<BR/>SF Marko Jaric<BR/>PF Mark Madsen<BR/><BR/>FROM SEATTLE<BR/>PG Luke Ridnour<BR/>C Mouhamed Sene<BR/><BR/>TO CLEVELAND<BR/>SF Marko Jaric<BR/>PF Mark Madsen<BR/><BR/>TO MINNESOTA<BR/>PG Luke Ridnour<BR/>C Mouhamed Sene<BR/><BR/>TO SEATTLE<BR/>PG Eric Snow<BR/><BR/><A>http://tinyurl.com/4bzc8j</A><BR/><BR/><B>TRANSACTIONS</B><BR/><BR/>1. Waive Keith Van Horn and Adrian Griffin, who've got non-guaranteed contracts.<BR/><BR/>2. Renounce the draft rights to foreigners Peter Fehse, Christian Drejer, Yotam Halperin, and Paccelis Morlende.<BR/><BR/>3. Don't tender qualifying offers to Robert Swift and Mickael Gelabale, which thereby makes them unrestricted free-agents.<BR/><BR/><B>2008-2009 ROSTER</B><BR/>C: Nick Collison<BR/>C: Robin Lopez<BR/>C: David Padgett<BR/>PF: Jeff Green<BR/>PF: Johan Petro<BR/>PF: Donyell Marshall<BR/>SF: Kevin Durant<BR/>SF: Courtney Lee<BR/>SG: Bobby Jackson<BR/>SG: Shan Foster<BR/>SG: Maurice Ager<BR/>PG: Derrick Rose<BR/>PG: Kyle Weaver<BR/>PG: Eric Snow<BR/><BR/>That, folks, is a form of stingy roster construction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-24029260638224206282008-05-14T16:56:00.000-07:002008-05-14T16:56:00.000-07:00Carl Landry makes a living based on his offense ra...Carl Landry makes a living based on his offense rather than his defense, which is why Rick Adelman should almost always pair him alongside Chuck Hayes off of the bench.<BR/><BR/>Regarding the Landry trade, Clay Bennett probably enjoyed his $1,000,000 in cash considerations, while Sam Presti is creamin' himself just dreamin' about using the 56th pick in the 2008 NBA Draft.<BR/><BR/><A>http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=5420&print=yes</A><BR/><BR/>Yeah, that trade backfired on the SuperSonics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-58009212868184653622008-05-14T09:02:00.000-07:002008-05-14T09:02:00.000-07:00It kills me the Sonics traded away Landry for a pi...It kills me the Sonics traded away Landry for a pick this year that won't be as good, just so Bennett could get some extra $$ to pay his legal bills. Landry is a perfect "culture" type player that Presti should be trying to build his team around, just like Collison. Granted, his offensive skills aren't there yet, but you can't tell me he wouldn't have been nice to have on the roster after the Sonics trade Wilcox away this summer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-76456926535868601382008-05-13T21:58:00.000-07:002008-05-13T21:58:00.000-07:00Yeah I agree with almost all of that. I'd probably...Yeah I agree with almost all of that. I'd probably put Landry over Young. The guard crop was really weak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-53909147640623365152008-05-13T19:25:00.000-07:002008-05-13T19:25:00.000-07:00If the NBA All-Rookie Teams consisted of three squ...If the NBA All-Rookie Teams consisted of three squads and were voted for based on position, then here's my rankings.<BR/><BR/>NBA All-Rookie First Team<BR/>Al Horford<BR/>Luis Scola<BR/>Thaddeus Young<BR/>Kevin Durant<BR/>Mike Conley, Jr.<BR/><BR/>NBA All-Rookie Second Team<BR/>Joakim Noah<BR/>Carl Landry<BR/>Jamario Moon<BR/>Juan Carlos Navarro<BR/>Rodney Stuckey<BR/><BR/>NBA All-Rookie Third Team<BR/>Aaron Gray<BR/>Sean Williams<BR/>Al Thornton<BR/>Nick Young<BR/>Aaron Brooks<BR/><BR/>Jeff Green almost made this list, however.<BR/><BR/>NBA All-Rookie Bust Team<BR/>Spencer Hawes<BR/>Yi Jianlian<BR/>Corey Brewer<BR/>Marco Belinelli<BR/>Acie Law<BR/><BR/>Hell, he's lucky that Brewer is total garbage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-59343388497967243392008-05-13T18:30:00.000-07:002008-05-13T18:30:00.000-07:00On PER Green ranked 144th out of 183 among tall fo...On PER Green ranked 144th out of 183 among tall forwards.<BR/><BR/>Just among rookie forwards he was 15th of 22.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>He did show flashes of quality and the potential certainly exists to see it more. <BR/><BR/>Time will tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-92090219091137230312008-05-13T18:22:00.000-07:002008-05-13T18:22:00.000-07:00His better ratings in this group:16th best at maki...His better ratings in this group:<BR/><BR/>16th best at making free throws per 48 minutes. 52nd (top 1/3) on steals.<BR/><BR/><BR/>More bad news:<BR/><BR/>25th worst (out of 183) tall forward on overall "offensive rating" (according to basketball-reference.com). <BR/><BR/>27th worst on "defensive rating"<BR/><BR/>Also in top third on fouling.<BR/><BR/>But season 1 is done.<BR/><BR/>Season 2 should be better, hopefully a lot better. Fewer weak ratings compared to peers, more average and good ratings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-52859608663080989152008-05-13T18:14:00.000-07:002008-05-13T18:14:00.000-07:00Just among the peer group of all forwards in the l...Just among the peer group of all forwards in the league 6'-7" or bigger he was 80th on assists per minute. 67th on rebounding per minute. 165th out of 183 on turnover rate. 136th on True Shooting%.<BR/><BR/>Long ways from "all-rookie" team to "average" or "good" in the league among the crowd of forwards or among fellow starters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-7838049050415040502008-05-13T17:56:00.000-07:002008-05-13T17:56:00.000-07:00oops, i meant mystiquebut some of them might be my...oops, i meant mystique<BR/><BR/>but some of them might be mystics but it doesn't appear that they are going on many facts and careful reasoning with those facts.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I agree with Nuss Green should have been in a close match for last spot on 2nd team and I would not have voted for him for that over Landry, Moon and probably Sean Williams.<BR/><BR/>The award does not matter but I'd rather he went into next season hungry to prove himself a lot better than perhaps feeling content.<BR/><BR/>Earlier he talked about needing to work hard and get better. Yep. Take the award Jeff then get back to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-83205203800746080992008-05-13T17:41:00.000-07:002008-05-13T17:41:00.000-07:00The coaches should know better and vote smarter. T...The coaches should know better and vote smarter. They undermine their mystic with some of the voting decisions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-92077573147423044742008-05-13T17:33:00.000-07:002008-05-13T17:33:00.000-07:0010.2 ppg - that's pretty much it, if you ask me. I...10.2 ppg - that's pretty much it, if you ask me. In all honesty, he probably didn't even deserve to make the second team, either. If Landry got the minutes Green did, he would have averaged 13.5 points and 8 boards, as compared to 10.5 ppg and 3.5 rpg for Green.<BR/><BR/>Hey, you can't blame the coaches for this, they just don't have the time to sit and study all this crap. They just ask some guy in the PR department to write some names down and leave it at that.<BR/><BR/>In the end, the best player(s) will come through.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-72349108597236328372008-05-13T17:00:00.000-07:002008-05-13T17:00:00.000-07:00Why did Jeff Green make the 2007-2008 NBA All-Rook...Why did Jeff Green make the 2007-2008 NBA All-Rookie First Team?<BR/><BR/>He certainly didn't deserve the accolade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7758702.post-58484087277986257422008-05-13T14:29:00.000-07:002008-05-13T14:29:00.000-07:00Just think, if we go by the previous plan, in 12 y...Just think, if we go by the previous plan, in 12 years we'll be playing for the NBA Championship!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com